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alt.gothic Convergence is the annual party put on by the denizens of alt.gothic for the denizens of alt.gothic and ALL their friends that squishes together hundreds of net.goths from around the globe into a single city for a weekend of socializing, [[booze]], musical events and sweet debauchery.
alt.gothic Convergence is the annual party which was originally put on by the denizens of alt.gothic and has since grown to include members of the myriad Gothic/Industrial online and social media groups it spawned. Hundreds of net.goths from around the globe squish into a single city for a weekend of IRL socializing, booze, musical events and sweet debauchery.


It started out in 1994 when the regular posters on [[alt.gothic]] decided that meeting up was a good idea.
It started out in 1994 when the regular posters on [[alt.gothic]] decided that meeting up was a good idea.
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===Future Convergence===
===Future Convergence===
Convergence XXI will be held in Hollywood, May 1st-3rd 2015. [http://www.altgothic.com/c21hol Visit the website] for more details.


Updates will posted on [news:alt.gothic alt.gothic] and other places.
Bidding and voting for C28 is under discussion and will happen soon.
 
Updates will posted on here, [news:alt.gothic alt.gothic], on the book of face, and other places.


===Usenet - why do we still use it?===
===Usenet - why do we still use it?===
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Usenet is old, unloved and barely used. Nearly all the net.goths have moved on to newer, shiny places like FB, LJ, Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Myspace, etc., etc. so you may want to know why we insist on keeping the alt.gothic Usenet group as the official home of C*.
Usenet is old, unloved and barely used. Nearly all the net.goths have moved on to newer, shiny places like FB, LJ, Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Myspace, etc., etc. so you may want to know why we insist on keeping the alt.gothic Usenet group as the official home of C*.


There's two major reasons:
There are four major reasons:
1. History. That's where we started, it's our home. In these days of constant change a bit of continuity is a good thing.
 
2. Usenet is a distributed network, not a proprietary website. It can't disappear overnight. The corporation that owns it can't delete the group or prevent people from accessing it.  
# History. That's where we started, it's our home. In these days of constant change a bit of continuity is a good thing.
# Usenet is a distributed network, not a proprietary website. It can't disappear overnight. The corporation that owns it can't delete the group or prevent people from accessing it.
# You don't have to give a corporation private information to access it.
# No one has to run a Forum on this website for us to hold the discussions on.
 
 
===LiveJournal===
 
the [[https://convergence.livejournal.com/ Convergence Livejournal group] was very popular in it's time. [http://altgothic.com/convergence_lj.pdf here] is a PDF of it as of 2022-04-30.
 
===The Convergence That Wasn't===
The [[C26 | Convergence XXVI]] vote was won by the Louisville Kentucky bid [http://www.altgothic.com/c26sdf].
The event was postponed due to the COVID19 pandemic because we are sensible people and subsequently has yet to occur, being superceded in 2025 by C27. It may return sometime in the future, causing timeline disruption and pandemonium.  


===Previous Convergences===
===Previous Convergences===
*[[C21 | Convergence XXI - Hollywood]]  
*[[C27 | Convergence XXVII - Denver, CO]]
*[[C20 | Convergence XX - Chicago]]  
*[[C25 | Convergence XXV - Boston, MA]]
*[[C19 | Convergence XIX - Austin]]
*[[C24 | Convergence XXIV - Detroit, MI]]
*[[C18 | Convergence XVIII - Buffalo NY]]
*[[C23 | Convergence XXIII - Dallas, TX]]
*[[C22 | Convergence XXII - New Orleans, LA]]
*[[C21 | Convergence XXI - Hollywood, CA]]  
*[[C20 | Convergence XX - Chicago, IL]]  
*[[C19 | Convergence XIX - Austin, TX]]
*[[C18 | Convergence XVIII - Buffalo, NY]]
*[[C17 | Convergence XVII - Cozumel, Mexico]]
*[[C17 | Convergence XVII - Cozumel, Mexico]]
*[[C16 | Convergence XVI - Park City, UT)]]
*[[C16 | Convergence XVI - Park City, UT]]
*[[C15 | Convergence XV - Long Beach, CA)]]
*[[C15 | Convergence XV - Long Beach, CA]]
*[[C14 | Convergence XIV - Ybor City (Tampa)]]
*[[C14 | Convergence XIV - Ybor City (Tampa), FL]]
*[[C13 | Convergence XIII - Portland, OR]]
*[[C13 | Convergence XIII - Portland, OR]]
*[[C12 | Convergence XII - New Orleans]]
*[[C12 | Convergence XII - New Orleans, LA]]
*[[C11 | Convergence XI - San Diego]]
*[[C11 | Convergence XI - San Diego, CA]]
*[[C10 | Convergence X - Chicago]]
*[[C10 | Convergence X - Chicago, IL]]
*[[C9 | Convergence IX - Las Vegas]]
*[[C9 | Convergence IX - Las Vegas, NV]]
*[[C8 | Convergence VIII - Montreal]]
*[[C8 | Convergence VIII - Montreal, QC]]
*[[C7 | Convergence VII - New York City]]
*[[C7 | Convergence VII - New York City, NY]]
*[[C6 | Convergence VI - Seattle]]
*[[C6 | Convergence VI - Seattle, WA]]
*[[C5 | Convergence V - New Orleans]]
*[[C5 | Convergence V - New Orleans, LA]]
*[[C4 | Convergence IV - Toronto]]
*[[C4 | Convergence IV - Toronto, ON]]
*[[C3 | Convergence III - San Francisco]]
*[[C3 | Convergence III - San Francisco, CA]]
*[[C2 | Convergence II - Boston]]
*[[C2 | Convergence II - Boston, MA]]
*[[C1 | Convergence I - Chicago]]
*[[C1 | Convergence I - Chicago, IL]]


==Other Convergi==
==Other Convergi==
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==Links==
==Links==
[[User:Siobhan | Siobhan]] has a reasonable summary of previous Convergences [http://www.virulent.org/converg4/past.html on her website].
[[User:Siobhan | Siobhan]] had a reasonable summary of many Convergences [http://www.virulent.org/converg4/past.html on her website].
But then A Bad Thing happened, and all the data was lost forever.

Latest revision as of 05:51, 15 September 2025

alt.gothic Convergence is the annual party which was originally put on by the denizens of alt.gothic and has since grown to include members of the myriad Gothic/Industrial online and social media groups it spawned. Hundreds of net.goths from around the globe squish into a single city for a weekend of IRL socializing, booze, musical events and sweet debauchery.

It started out in 1994 when the regular posters on alt.gothic decided that meeting up was a good idea.

Since then, every year a bunch of people from different cities put together bids to host the thing (I pity the fool...). The bids are then voted on, and the winner gets the job of doing all the work so that the rest of us can have fun (some people have a strange definition of 'win')

Some of the old bids have survived.

Some of the attendees put pictures on the internet. Take a look.

The official drink is a Better Martini. Just in case you were wondering.

Communication about convergence officially happens on this Wiki, alt.gothic, the Afterglow mailing list, the Convergence Facebook group, the Convergence LiveJournal Community, it rough order of officialness. During the event, and for a small window around it, ConvergTwit twitter account is used for communication of changes in locations and schedules, calls for public aid, ad hoc events, etc.


Future Convergence

Bidding and voting for C28 is under discussion and will happen soon.

Updates will posted on here, alt.gothic, on the book of face, and other places.

Usenet - why do we still use it?

Usenet is old, unloved and barely used. Nearly all the net.goths have moved on to newer, shiny places like FB, LJ, Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Myspace, etc., etc. so you may want to know why we insist on keeping the alt.gothic Usenet group as the official home of C*.

There are four major reasons:

  1. History. That's where we started, it's our home. In these days of constant change a bit of continuity is a good thing.
  2. Usenet is a distributed network, not a proprietary website. It can't disappear overnight. The corporation that owns it can't delete the group or prevent people from accessing it.
  3. You don't have to give a corporation private information to access it.
  4. No one has to run a Forum on this website for us to hold the discussions on.


LiveJournal

the [Convergence Livejournal group was very popular in it's time. here is a PDF of it as of 2022-04-30.

The Convergence That Wasn't

The Convergence XXVI vote was won by the Louisville Kentucky bid [1]. The event was postponed due to the COVID19 pandemic because we are sensible people and subsequently has yet to occur, being superceded in 2025 by C27. It may return sometime in the future, causing timeline disruption and pandemonium.

Previous Convergences

Other Convergi

Convergence has been used as a name for a few other gatherings

Siobhan had a reasonable summary of many Convergences on her website. But then A Bad Thing happened, and all the data was lost forever.