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	===Expectations===		===Expectations===

	Convergences vary in size and duration due to many factors. A typical recent event will draw		Convergences vary in size and duration due to many factors. A typical recent event will draw between 150 and 300 attendees (verified as of 2026 – there may be as many as 500 people at the event, but that includes locals + bands), and typically officially last Friday through Sunday of a weekend, with unofficial stays running Wednesday through Tuesday. Attendees will be happiest if negotiated room rates at least include Thursday and Monday.
	between 150 and 300 attendees (verified as of 2026 – there may be as many as 500 people at
	the event, but that includes locals + bands), and typically officially last Friday through Sunday of
	a weekend, with unofficial stays running Wednesday through Tuesday. Attendees will be
	happiest if negotiated room rates at least include Thursday and Monday.

	There is a great deal of flexibility in what's actually provided. For example, if the place where a		There is a great deal of flexibility in what's actually provided. For example, if the place where a Convergence event is being planned for has no suitable venue, then using a hotel's ballroom space may be a useful option. If an otherwise ideal venue exists but is distant from the hotel, providing shuttle buses may be an option. If a base hotel is too small to accommodate projected attendance, provision for an overflow hotel nearby may be a useful option, even so little as simply locating one that isn't full yet and saying "try this one" may be enough.
	Convergence event is being planned for has no suitable venue, then using a hotel's ballroom
	space may be a useful option. If an otherwise ideal venue exists but is distant from the hotel,
	providing shuttle buses may be an option. If a base hotel is too small to accommodate projected
	attendance, provision for an overflow hotel nearby may be a useful option, even so little as
	simply locating one that isn't full yet and saying "try this one" may be enough.

	The absolute bare minimum is a place for a bunch of goths to hang out together, publicly and		The absolute bare minimum is a place for a bunch of goths to hang out together, publicly and ideally 24 hours a day, and plan things. In most cases, the hotel lobby has served in this capacity, but even the hotel lobby isn't strictly necessary, if there's a side room that can be co-opted, a patio, or a con suite.
	ideally 24 hours a day, and plan things. In most cases, the hotel lobby has served in this
	capacity, but even the hotel lobby isn't strictly necessary, if there's a side room that can be
	co-opted, a patio, or a con suite.

	===Hotel===		===Hotel===

	You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the		You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.)
	fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more
	harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're'''
	the quiet ones.)

	====Room Blocks====		====Room Blocks====

	If there's just one piece of advice you listen to here, it's this: '''Start small!''' Make sure you set up		If there's just one piece of advice you listen to here, it's this: '''Start small!''' Make sure you set up the block with an adequate number of rooms and that there's room for growth of the block (depending on hotel capacity and how many rooms they have available at the time). It's much better to start with too few rooms and have to add, than it is to end up with too many. Depending on the hotel you've contracted with, you may end up paying for those extra rooms out of your own pocket.
	the block with an adequate number of rooms and that there's room for growth of the block
	(depending on hotel capacity and how many rooms they have available at the time). It's much
	better to start with too few rooms and have to add, than it is to end up with too many. Depending
	on the hotel you've contracted with, you may end up paying for those extra rooms out of your
	own pocket.

	The appropriate number of rooms to block varies by year, but you'll also want to take particular		The appropriate number of rooms to block varies by year, but you'll also want to take particular days into account. If you're planning to book out 100 rooms on the top days, you might want to do something like 25 Thursday, 100 Friday & Saturday, 75 Sunday. (These, of course, are not hard numbers, play with them based on your own needs and feedback.)
	days into account. If you're planning to book out 100 rooms on the top days, you might want to
	do something like 25 Thursday, 100 Friday & Saturday, 75 Sunday. (These, of course, are not
	hard numbers, play with them based on your own needs and feedback.)

	====Hotel-based Events====		====Hotel-based Events====

	At the very least, you should make sure there's a good gathering place for attendees to sit		At the very least, you should make sure there's a good gathering place for attendees to sit around, drink, and socialize at any time of the day.
	around, drink, and socialize at any time of the day.

	You'll also want to make sure there's an appropriate-sized room for vendors to set up in to sell		You'll also want to make sure there's an appropriate-sized room for vendors to set up in to sell their merchandise. Your best advice for how to handle the vendors' room is going to come from any of the vendors that have done at least a few different C* events.
	their merchandise. Your best advice for how to handle the vendors' room is going to come from
	any of the vendors that have done at least a few different C* events.

	Post-C21, there is a lot of discussion about offering workshops or panels in hopes of drawing a		Post-C21, there is a lot of discussion about offering workshops or panels in hopes of drawing a larger crowd. Keep in mind that a lot of people will explore the host city instead of attending daytime events, so keep that in mind when you consider how much money you're willing to add to your budget for these items. That said, the more options you can give people, the better off you'll be!
	larger crowd. Keep in mind that a lot of people will explore the host city instead of attending
	daytime events, so keep that in mind when you consider how much money you're willing to add
	to your budget for these items. That said, the more options you can give people, the better off
	you'll be!

	===Venue===		===Venue===

	This will probably be your biggest challenge. You want something close to the hotel (or at least		This will probably be your biggest challenge. You want something close to the hotel (or at least close enough that one or two shuttles running back and forth can pick up and drop off
	close enough that one or two shuttles running back and forth can pick up and drop off		frequently) and is an appropriate size for the event. If you have bands in a venue built for 3000 people but only put 300 in there, the sound is going to be off and it's going to feel empty.
	frequently) and is an appropriate size for the event. If you have bands in a venue built for 3000
	people but only put 300 in there, the sound is going to be off and it's going to feel empty.

	While due consideration should be given while putting together your bid, there is no need to		While due consideration should be given while putting together your bid, there is no need to have a venue lined up just for bidding purposes.
	have a venue lined up just for bidding purposes.

	==="Unofficial" Events===		==="Unofficial" Events===

	By definition, you will not have to plan unofficial events. However, as a local resource, putting		By definition, you will not have to plan unofficial events. However, as a local resource, putting together information about local things that are customary unofficial events will endear you to the fans of that particular event. Additionally, attractions in your area that may be of interest to individuals or small groups should be at least superficially collected, and directions to those things from the main hotel (by car and transit if available) included.
	together information about local things that are customary unofficial events will endear you to
	the fans of that particular event. Additionally, attractions in your area that may be of interest to
	individuals or small groups should be at least superficially collected, and directions to those
	things from the main hotel (by car and transit if available) included.

	====AGF Tea Party====		====AGF Tea Party====

	If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect		If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.
	capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space
	information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the
	past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.

	====Corpgoth Dinner====		====Corpgoth Dinner====

	A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made		A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.
	available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by
	about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than
	60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30
	range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.

	==Submitting a Bid==		==Submitting a Bid==
	Please see [[Bids]] and [[Timeline]]		Please see [[Bids]] and [[Timeline]]

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 Bidding is the process by which proposals for Convergence events are formalized and readied for voting. In most conversations and documentation of process, the terms "bid" and "proposal" are synonymous. Bid may be prepared at any time for any year's event, even several years out, but the proposal should be considered something of an open secret. Open discussion and promotion of specific bids is limited to periods as described in the [[Timeline]], and promotion, even in a general "buzz-generating" sense is frowned upon, with the possibility that over-promotion early can result in a failure to have the bid ratified.
 ==How To Build A Bid==
 ===Expectations===
-There is a great deal of flexibility in what's actually provided. For example, if the place where a Convergence event is being planned for has no suitable venue, then using a hotel's ballroom space may be a useful option. If an otherwise ideal venue exists but is distant from the hotel, providing shuttle buses may be an option. If a base hotel is too small to accommodate projected attendance, provision for an overflow hotel nearby may be a useful option, even so little as simply locating one that isn't full yet and saying "try this one" may be enough. The absolute bare minimum is a place for a bunch of goths to hang out together, publicly and ideally 24 hours a day, and plan things. In most cases, the hotel lobby has served in this capacity, but even that it be in the hotel lobby isn't necessary if there's a side room that can be co-opted, a patio, or a con suite.
+Convergences vary in size and duration due to many factors. A typical recent event will draw
 ===Hotel===
 You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.)
 ====Room Blocks====
-The appropriate number of rooms to block varies by year, but you'll also want to take particular days into account. If you're planning to book out 100 rooms on the top days, you might want to do something like 25 Thursday, 100 Friday & Saturday, 75 Sunday. (These, of course, are not hard numbers, play with them based on your own needs and feedback.)
+If there's just one piece of advice you listen to here, it's this: '''Start small!''' Make sure you set up
 ====Hotel-based Events====
-You'll also want to make sure there's an appropriate sized room for vendors to set up in to sell their merchandise. Your best advice for how to handle the vendors' room is going to come from any of the vendors that have done at least a few different C* events.
+At the very least, you should make sure there's a good gathering place for attendees to sit
 ===Venue===
-While due consideration should be given while putting together your bid, there is no need to have a venue lined up just for bidding purposes.
+This will probably be your biggest challenge. You want something close to the hotel (or at least
-====Space and Outfitting====
+close enough that one or two shuttles running back and forth can pick up and drop off
-====Talent and Riders====
+frequently) and is an appropriate size for the event. If you have bands in a venue built for 3000
 ==="Unofficial" Events===
 By definition, you will not have to plan unofficial events. However, as a local resource, putting together information about local things that are customary unofficial events will endear you to the fans of that particular event. Additionally, attractions in your area that may be of interest to individuals or small groups should be at least superficially collected and directions to those things from the main hotel (by car and transit if available) included.
 ====AGF Tea Party====
 If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.
 ====Corpgoth Dinner====
 A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.
 ==Submitting a Bid==
 Please see [[Bids]] and [[Timeline]]

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	==Submitting a Bid==		==Submitting a Bid==
			Please see [[Bids]] and [[Timeline]]

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How To Build A Bid

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	===Hotel===		===Hotel===
	You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.		You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.)
	====Room Blocks====		====Room Blocks====
			If there's just one piece of advice you listen to here, it's this: '''Start small!''' Make sure you set up the block with an adequate number of rooms and that there's room for growth of the block (depending on hotel capacity and how many rooms they have available at the time). It's much better to start with too few rooms and have to add than it is to end up with too many. Depending on the hotel you've contracted with, you may end up paying for those extra rooms out of your own pocket.

			The appropriate number of rooms to block varies by year, but you'll also want to take particular days into account. If you're planning to book out 100 rooms on the top days, you might want to do something like 25 Thursday, 100 Friday & Saturday, 75 Sunday. (These, of course, are not hard numbers, play with them based on your own needs and feedback.)
	====Hotel-based Events====		====Hotel-based Events====
			At the very least, you should make sure there's a good gathering place for attendees to sit around, drink and socialize at any time of the day.

			You'll also want to make sure there's an appropriate sized room for vendors to set up in to sell their merchandise. Your best advice for how to handle the vendors' room is going to come from any of the vendors that have done at least a few different C* events.

			Post-C21, there is a lot of discussion about offering workshops or panels in hopes of drawing a larger crowd. Keep in mind that a lot of people will explore the host city instead of attending daytime events so keep that in mind when you consider how much money you're willing to add to your budget for these items. That said, the more options you can give people, the better off you'll be!
	===Venue===		===Venue===
			This will probably be your biggest challenge. You want something close to the hotel (or at least close enough that one or two shuttles running back and forth can pick up and drop off frequently) and is an appropriate size for the event. If you have bands in a venue built for 3000 people but only put 300 in there, the sound is going to be off and it's going to feel empty.

			While due consideration should be given while putting together your bid, there is no need to have a venue lined up just for bidding purposes.
	====Space and Outfitting====		====Space and Outfitting====
	====Talent and Riders====		====Talent and Riders====
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	If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.		If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.
	====Corpgoth Dinner====		====Corpgoth Dinner====
	A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.		A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.


	==Submitting a Bid==		==Submitting a Bid==

Eilis at 03:01, 24 June 2012

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	A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.		A list of restaurants that are large enough and in the "fine dining" category should be made available. When compiling the list, be aware that the Corpgoth Dinner is usually attended by about 30% of the total attendees, so total seating in the establishment should be no less than 60-75% of your total attendees. When looking at cost for meals, main courses in the US$20-$30 range with expected total prices of $45-60 per person should be considered ideal.
	~~====Goths On Ice====~~
	~~Base requirement for this is ice: hockey or figure-skating space, with quotes for public skating (with and without skate rental) and private ice time.~~
	==Submitting a Bid==		==Submitting a Bid==

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	Base requirement for this is ice: hockey or figure-skating space, with quotes for public skating (with and without skate rental) and private ice time.		Base requirement for this is ice: hockey or figure-skating space, with quotes for public skating (with and without skate rental) and private ice time.
			==Submitting a Bid==

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Expectations

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	===Expectations===		===Expectations===
	Convergences vary in size and duration due to many factors. A typical recent event will draw between 150 and 300 attendees, and typically officially last Friday through Sunday of a weekend, with unofficial stays running Wednesday through Tuesday.		Convergences vary in size and duration due to many factors. A typical recent event will draw between 150 and 300 attendees, and typically officially last Friday through Sunday of a weekend, with unofficial stays running Wednesday through Tuesday.

			There is a great deal of flexibility in what's actually provided. For example, if the place where a Convergence event is being planned for has no suitable venue, then using a hotel's ballroom space may be a useful option. If an otherwise ideal venue exists but is distant from the hotel, providing shuttle buses may be an option. If a base hotel is too small to accommodate projected attendance, provision for an overflow hotel nearby may be a useful option, even so little as simply locating one that isn't full yet and saying "try this one" may be enough. The absolute bare minimum is a place for a bunch of goths to hang out together, publicly and ideally 24 hours a day, and plan things. In most cases, the hotel lobby has served in this capacity, but even that it be in the hotel lobby isn't necessary if there's a side room that can be co-opted, a patio, or a con suite.

	===Hotel===		===Hotel===
	You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.		You will need a place or places for people to stay. Designating a particular spot concentrates the fun. Aim small, though. Being able to fill 70% of the rooms at 2-3 people per is much more harmonious than filling 10% of a larger hotel. (Unless you're Las Vegas, in which case '''we're''' the quiet ones.

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	====Talent and Riders====		====Talent and Riders====
	==="Unofficial" Events===		==="Unofficial" Events===
	By definition, you will not have to plan unofficial events. However, as a local resource, putting together information about local things that are customary unofficial events will endear you to the fans of that particular event.		By definition, you will not have to plan unofficial events. However, as a local resource, putting together information about local things that are customary unofficial events will endear you to the fans of that particular event. Additionally, attractions in your area that may be of interest to individuals or small groups should be at least superficially collected and directions to those things from the main hotel (by car and transit if available) included.
	====AGF Tea Party====		====AGF Tea Party====
	If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.		If there's an actual formal tea house someplace in your area, so much the better. Collect capacity and reservation information, menus and prices if possible. If not, hotel banquet space information, or private event catering in the hotel's restaurant space has proven useful in the past. Typical turnouts for this are about 15% of total attendees.