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This pages explains and describes the timeline for determining who will put on future alt.gothic Convergences℠ and where they will be.
This pages explains and describes the timeline for determining who will put on future alt.gothic Convergences℠ and where they will be.  


==What Is alt.gothic Convergence℠?==
==What Is alt.gothic Convergence℠?==
[[Convergence]]℠ is explained on it's own page, but [[The_C*B*L | we]] feel it's worth reiterating the core purpose here. [[alt.gothic]] [[Convergence]]℠ is the annual party put on by the denizens of [[alt.gothic]] for the denizens of [[alt.gothic]] and ALL their friends that squishes together hundreds of [[net.goth]]s from around the globe and their friends into a single city for a weekend of socializing, booze, musical events and sweet debauchery.
[[Convergence]]℠ is explained on it's own page, but [[The_C*B*L | we]] feel it's worth reiterating the core purpose here. [[alt.gothic]] [[Convergence]]℠ is the annual party put on by the denizens of [[alt.gothic]] for the denizens of [[alt.gothic]] and ALL their friends. It has grown to include members of the myriad Gothic/Industrial online and social media groups it spawned. Hundreds of [[net.goth]]s from around the globe and their friends squish into a single city for a weekend of socializing, booze, musical events and sweet debauchery.


==Bid Selection Process==
==Bid Selection Process==
There are 4 steps to getting a bid chosen to be a [[Convergence]]:
There are 4 steps to getting a bid chosen to be a [[Convergence]]:
# Bids are entered.
# [[Bids]] are entered.
# [[The C*B*L]] vet the bids to ensure they are within the bounds of reason<ref>We may well look askance at a bid that looked like [http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/ Glastonbury] for example</ref> and fulfill the requirements.
# [[The C*B*L]] vet the [[bids]] to ensure they are within the bounds of reason<ref>We may well look askance at a bid that looked like [http://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/ Glastonbury] for example</ref> and fulfill the requirements.
# [[alt.gothic]] [[Ratification | ratifies]] the bids.
# [[alt.gothic]] [[Ratification | ratifies]] the bids.
# The voters [[Voting | vote]] for the bid they want to go to.
# The voters [[Voting | vote]] for the bid they want to go to.
The events occur on the dates laid out in the [[timeline]]


==Disclaimer==
==Disclaimer==
This is the official timeline. It is not necessarily how things WILL work, but how they SHOULD. Keep an eye on alt.gothic, alt.gothic.convergence and this website for updates to this information. We are not getting paid to do this and we do have day jobs so sometimes shit happens.
This is the official timeline. It is not necessarily how things WILL work, but how they SHOULD. Keep an eye on alt.gothic, alt.gothic.convergence and this website for updates to this information. We are not getting paid to do this and we do have day jobs so sometimes shit happens.


==Convergence 15 Timetable==
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==Convergence 24 Timetable==
 
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!
 
Now for the message you've all been waiting for! It's time, once again, to start submitting any proposal you may have for Convergence number 24! Anyway, any of you spooksters interested in bidding, get your proposals gussied up and contact us right away!
 
Email [mailto:carriemonster@gmail.com carriemonster@gmail.com] or shoot [https://www.facebook.com/carriemonster Carrie Gough] a facebook message and we can help you get on the way to a glorious party.  [[The C*b*l]] exists to help! If you have any questions, ask ask ask.
 
The timeline for C24 bid proposal and voting goes like this
 
===Friday June 30 2017===
Submission deadline.
 
By this date, Bidding Committees must have submitted their Bid Proposals and preliminary event budgets for inclusion on the ballot. They will have a web account set up on altgothic.com to host their proposal web sites and site credentials will be sent to bid committees.
See the [[Bids]] page for information on how to create and submit a Convergence proposal.
 
Note that the person that submits the bid will be the point of contact with [[The C*B*L]]. Any references to a Committee Chair in the process refer to that person.
 
===Friday July 7 2017===
Bids go live.
 
Bidding Committees *must* post their Bid Proposals to the alt.gothic.* news groups and they may open their web sites to the public. Posting to regional mailing lists, web communities, blogs, social media etc. is acceptable but not essential.  If you don't have a newsfeed that can access alt.gothic, [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/topics?hl=en Google] can help you out. (It would be in the bid's BEST INTERESTS to post everywhere! [https://www.facebook.com/groups/altgothicconvergence Convergence FB group], [https://www.facebook.com/groups/alt.gothic/ altgothic FB group], [http://convergence.livejournal.com/profile LJ], Tumblr, Twitter, anywhere and everywhere you can think of!)


===Bid Proposal Request Period BEGINS===
Discussion BEGINS.
'''2008 July 08 22:02EST (03:02GMT)'''<br>
Bids are *locked* during the discussion period: the Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids. The proposal websites are frozen. The denizens of alt.gothic discuss their ideals and reservations regarding the bids. Committees answer questions. Bids may be rejected by consensus if they do not please the people, although they are no longer required to be specifically ratified.
# All Convergence 15 Bid Proposal Committee Chairpersons must contact Siobhan (convergence@virulent.org) to have a web account set up on altgothic.com to host their proposal web sites.<br><br>


===Bid Proposal Submission Period BEGINS===
===Friday July 14 2017===
===Bid Proposal Public Discussion and Debate Period BEGINS.===
Discussion Period ENDS
'''2008 July 24 00:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# During this time Bid Proposal Committees must submit their Bid Proposals and preliminary event budgets to Siobhan (convergence@virulent.org) for inclusion on the Convergence 15 ballot. After receipt of submission they must post their Bid Proposals to the alt.gothic.* news groups' they may open their web sites to the public. Posting to regional mailing lists, web communities, blogs etc. is acceptable but not essential.
# See the [[Bids]] page for information on how to create and submit a Convergence 15 proposal.
# The Convergence 15 Bid Proposal Public Discussion and Debate Period also begins at this time. Discussions will take place primarily on the alt.gothic* news group hierarchy.
# If you don't have a newsfeed that can access alt.gothic , [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/topics?hl=en Google] can help you out.


===Bid Proposal Request Period ENDS===
Speak now or forever shut it!
===Bid Proposal Submission Period ENDS===
The voting system is announced on alt.gothic.
'''2008 July 31 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# Additional Convergence 15 Bid Proposals will NOT be accepted after this date on account of [[Siobhan]] and [[Axel]] will be on vacation. If you submit after that date, we will hold on to it for the Convergence 16 Bid Selection Process.


===[[Convergence 14]] BEGINS===
Bid Clarification Period BEGINS
'''2008 August 07 20:00 EST (01:00GMT)'''<br>
# [[The C*B*L]] and some (hopefully all) of the C15 bid committees will be there.<br>
# '''JOIN US'''.<br>
# There will probably be a semi-formal Interrogate the Bid Committees session at some point over the weekend. Likely at the Hotel Bar. Details will be posted on alt.gothic.


===[[Convergence 14]] ENDS===
The Bidding Committees may modify their bid websites to incorporate clarifications of the bid that came up during discussion.  
'''2008 August 12 **:** EST (**:**GMT)'''<br>
# There will be hangovers. Oh yes!


===Proposal Modification Period ENDS===
===Wednesday July 19 2017===
===Ratification Period BEGINS===
Bid Clarification Period ENDS
'''2008 August 12 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# The Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids.<br>
# The proposal websites are frozen.<br>
# The denizens of [[alt.gothic]] decide if they wish to reject any of the bids, as per the [[ratification]] process.


===Ratification Period ENDS===
C*B*L Bid Review BEGINS
'''2008 August 23 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
[[The C*B*L]] determine which bids are ratified.
# The voting system is announced on alt.gothic.


===Voting Period BEGINS===
Give us a couple of days - we all have day jobs after all.
'''2008 August 24 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''
The Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids.
# The people [http://www.altgothic.com/voter/index.php decide].
The proposal websites are frozen.  
The C*B*L will review the bids to ensure the changes are appropriate.  


===Voting Period ENDS===
===Monday July 24 2017===
'''2008 August 31 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''
Voting Period BEGINS
# Voting is closed and results will be reviewed and tallied.


===Committees notified of Results===
Voting opens at MIDNIGHT UTC and proceeds into Monday. That means it opens at 8 PM Sunday July 23rd US EDT, 5 PM PDT.
'''2008 August 31'''
# [[The C*B*L]] notifies the Chairs of the bids of the results.


===Public Announcement of Results===
Rock the vote and have a ball, that's what this is about after all!!
'''2008 September 01'''
Once Peter Coffin (aka:Hellsop) fires up the ballot machine:
# On receipt of a response from the Chair of the selected bid, or 24 hours after sending the notification, the selected bid and relevant voting demographics are announced on altgothic.com and the alt.gothic news groups.  
The people decide.


==The Selected Bid==
Want to vote but can't remember the URL?
The selected bid will be announced following the closing of voting and verification of the counted votes. At that time, an announcement will be posted to the alt.gothic.* news groups and [altgothic.com]. The authority to planning and execute one Convergence in accordance with the published proposal along with permission to use the Convergence service mark subject to [[The C*B*L]]'s ongoing approval will then be transferred to the selected committee.
Here it is: http://www.altgothic.com/voter/


==Provisional Convergence 16 Timetable==
===Monday July 31 2017===
The [[Convergence 15]] bid selection process occurred later than intended in 2008. The Process is intended to occur in Spring to allow the selected committee at least 12 months lead time. Therefore, we are publishing the provisional timeline for Convergence 16 selection nice and early to assist people who are considering entering a bid for Convergence 16.
Voting Period ENDS


===Bid Proposal Request Period BEGINS===
Voting closes at MIDNIGHT UTC from Monday. That means it closes at 8 PM Monday July 31st US EDT, 5 PM PDT. US voters will find voting closed if they attempt in the late evening of the 31st.
'''2009 February 07 00:00EST (03:02GMT)'''<br>
# All Convergence 16 Bid Proposal Committee Chairpersons must contact Siobhan (convergence@virulent.org) to have a web account set up on altgothic.com to host their proposal web sites.<br><br>


===Bid Proposal Submission Period BEGINS===
When we figure everyone who's going to vote has got around to it (or
===Bid Proposal Public Discussion and Debate Period BEGINS.===
we're tired of waiting), voting is closed and results will be reviewed and tallied.
'''2008 February 14 00:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# During this time Bid Proposal Committees must submit their Bid Proposals and preliminary event budgets to Siobhan (convergence@virulent.org) for inclusion on the Convergence 16 ballot. After receipt of submission they must post their Bid Proposals to the alt.gothic.* news groups' they may open their web sites to the public. Posting to regional mailing lists, web communities, blogs etc. is acceptable but not essential.
# See the [[Bids]] page for information on how to create and submit a Convergence 16 proposal.
# The Convergence 16 Bid Proposal Public Discussion and Debate Period also begins at this time. Discussions will take place primarily on the alt.gothic* news group hierarchy.
# If you don't have a newsfeed that can access alt.gothic , [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/topics?hl=en Google] can help you out.


===Bid Proposal Request Period ENDS===
===Tuesday Aug 1st 2017===
===Bid Proposal Submission Period ENDS===
Committees notified of Results
'''2009 February 28 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# Additional Convergence 16 Bid Proposals will NOT be accepted after this date. If you submit after that date, we will hold on to it for the Convergence 17 Bid Selection Process.


===Proposal Modification Period ENDS===
Flying Monkeys only move so fast. The C*B*L notifies the Chairs of the bids of the results.
===Ratification Period BEGINS===
'''2009 March 12 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
# The Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids.<br>
# The proposal websites are frozen.<br>
# The denizens of [[alt.gothic]] decide if they wish to reject any of the bids, as per the [[ratification]] process.


===Ratification Period ENDS===
After the winners have accepted:
'''2009 March 23 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''<br>
EVERYONE KNOWS!
[[The C*B*L]] determine which bids are ratified.
# The voting system is announced on alt.gothic.


===Voting Period BEGINS===
So now let's get to work! Throw your mittens around your kittens and away we go!!
'''2009 March 24 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''
# The people [http://www.altgothic.com/voter/index.php decide].


===Voting Period ENDS===
Looking forward to an excellent bidding season!
'''2009 March 31 0:00EST (05:00GMT)'''
# Voting is closed and results will be reviewed and tallied.


===Committees notified of Results===
==The Selected Bid==
'''2009 March 31'''
The selected bid will be announced following the closing of voting and verification of the counted votes. At that time, an announcement will be posted to the alt.gothic.* news groups and [altgothic.com]. The authority to planning and execute one Convergence in accordance with the published proposal along with permission to use the Convergence service mark subject to [[The C*B*L]]'s ongoing approval will then be transferred to the selected committee.
# [[The C*B*L]] notifies the Chairs of the bids of the results.


===Public Announcement of Results===
==Previous Convergence Bid Selection Timelines==
'''2009 April 01'''
[[Previous Timelines]]
# On receipt of a response from the Chair of the winning bid, or after 24 hours of sending the notification, the winning proposal and relevant voting demographics are announced on altgothic.com and the alt.gothic news groups.


==Footnotes==
==Footnotes==
<references />
<references />

Revision as of 15:20, 9 July 2017

This pages explains and describes the timeline for determining who will put on future alt.gothic Convergences℠ and where they will be.

What Is alt.gothic Convergence℠?

Convergence℠ is explained on it's own page, but we feel it's worth reiterating the core purpose here. alt.gothic Convergence℠ is the annual party put on by the denizens of alt.gothic for the denizens of alt.gothic and ALL their friends. It has grown to include members of the myriad Gothic/Industrial online and social media groups it spawned. Hundreds of net.goths from around the globe and their friends squish into a single city for a weekend of socializing, booze, musical events and sweet debauchery.


Bid Selection Process

There are 4 steps to getting a bid chosen to be a Convergence:

  1. Bids are entered.
  2. The C*B*L vet the bids to ensure they are within the bounds of reason<ref>We may well look askance at a bid that looked like Glastonbury for example</ref> and fulfill the requirements.
  3. alt.gothic ratifies the bids.
  4. The voters vote for the bid they want to go to.

The events occur on the dates laid out in the timeline

Disclaimer

This is the official timeline. It is not necessarily how things WILL work, but how they SHOULD. Keep an eye on alt.gothic, alt.gothic.convergence and this website for updates to this information. We are not getting paid to do this and we do have day jobs so sometimes shit happens.

Convergence 24 Timetable

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!

Now for the message you've all been waiting for! It's time, once again, to start submitting any proposal you may have for Convergence number 24! Anyway, any of you spooksters interested in bidding, get your proposals gussied up and contact us right away!

Email carriemonster@gmail.com or shoot Carrie Gough a facebook message and we can help you get on the way to a glorious party. The C*b*l exists to help! If you have any questions, ask ask ask.

The timeline for C24 bid proposal and voting goes like this

Friday June 30 2017

Submission deadline.

By this date, Bidding Committees must have submitted their Bid Proposals and preliminary event budgets for inclusion on the ballot. They will have a web account set up on altgothic.com to host their proposal web sites and site credentials will be sent to bid committees.

See the Bids page for information on how to create and submit a Convergence proposal.

Note that the person that submits the bid will be the point of contact with The C*B*L. Any references to a Committee Chair in the process refer to that person.

Friday July 7 2017

Bids go live.

Bidding Committees *must* post their Bid Proposals to the alt.gothic.* news groups and they may open their web sites to the public. Posting to regional mailing lists, web communities, blogs, social media etc. is acceptable but not essential. If you don't have a newsfeed that can access alt.gothic, Google can help you out. (It would be in the bid's BEST INTERESTS to post everywhere! Convergence FB group, altgothic FB group, LJ, Tumblr, Twitter, anywhere and everywhere you can think of!)

Discussion BEGINS. Bids are *locked* during the discussion period: the Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids. The proposal websites are frozen. The denizens of alt.gothic discuss their ideals and reservations regarding the bids. Committees answer questions. Bids may be rejected by consensus if they do not please the people, although they are no longer required to be specifically ratified.

Friday July 14 2017

Discussion Period ENDS

Speak now or forever shut it! The voting system is announced on alt.gothic.

Bid Clarification Period BEGINS

The Bidding Committees may modify their bid websites to incorporate clarifications of the bid that came up during discussion.

Wednesday July 19 2017

Bid Clarification Period ENDS

C*B*L Bid Review BEGINS

Give us a couple of days - we all have day jobs after all. The Bidding Committees may no longer make any changes to their bids. The proposal websites are frozen. The C*B*L will review the bids to ensure the changes are appropriate.

Monday July 24 2017

Voting Period BEGINS

Voting opens at MIDNIGHT UTC and proceeds into Monday. That means it opens at 8 PM Sunday July 23rd US EDT, 5 PM PDT.

Rock the vote and have a ball, that's what this is about after all!! Once Peter Coffin (aka:Hellsop) fires up the ballot machine: The people decide.

Want to vote but can't remember the URL? Here it is: http://www.altgothic.com/voter/

Monday July 31 2017

Voting Period ENDS

Voting closes at MIDNIGHT UTC from Monday. That means it closes at 8 PM Monday July 31st US EDT, 5 PM PDT. US voters will find voting closed if they attempt in the late evening of the 31st.

When we figure everyone who's going to vote has got around to it (or we're tired of waiting), voting is closed and results will be reviewed and tallied.

Tuesday Aug 1st 2017

Committees notified of Results

Flying Monkeys only move so fast. The C*B*L notifies the Chairs of the bids of the results.

After the winners have accepted: EVERYONE KNOWS!

So now let's get to work! Throw your mittens around your kittens and away we go!!

Looking forward to an excellent bidding season!

The Selected Bid

The selected bid will be announced following the closing of voting and verification of the counted votes. At that time, an announcement will be posted to the alt.gothic.* news groups and [altgothic.com]. The authority to planning and execute one Convergence in accordance with the published proposal along with permission to use the Convergence service mark subject to The C*B*L's ongoing approval will then be transferred to the selected committee.

Previous Convergence Bid Selection Timelines

Previous Timelines

Footnotes

<references />