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From pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com Thu Nov 7 11:26:32 1991
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Summary: newgroup alt.gothic
Summary: newgroup alt.gothic
Keywords: newgroup
Keywords: newgroup
Message-ID: <1991Nov1.001114.27291@javelin.sim.es.com>
Message-ID: &lt;1991Nov1.001114.27291@javelin.sim.es.com&gt;
Date: 1 Nov 91 00:11:14 GMT
Date: 1 Nov 91 00:11:14 GMT
Control: newgroup alt.gothic
Control: newgroup alt.gothic
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Organization: Evans &amp; Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
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The charter, with accordance with Ms. Lemay's vision:
The charter, with accordance with Ms. Lemay's vision:


>alt.gothic is a newsgroup for the discussion of the gothic subculture.
&gt;alt.gothic is a newsgroup for the discussion of the gothic subculture.
>The gothic (or goth) movement is dedicated to things mournful and
&gt;The gothic (or goth) movement is dedicated to things mournful and
>dark.  It does not refer to the historical gothic movement, i.e.
&gt;dark.  It does not refer to the historical gothic movement, i.e.
>the ravaging of asia by the visigoths.
&gt;the ravaging of asia by the visigoths.
>
&gt;
>Then, below, you don't necessarily have to explain what each genre
&gt;Then, below, you don't necessarily have to explain what each genre
>is:
&gt;is:
>
&gt;
>Gothic music:  sometimes called "death rock", encompasses bands
&gt;Gothic music:  sometimes called &quot;death rock&quot;, encompasses bands
>such as (bands listed in the charter)
&gt;such as (bands listed in the charter)
>
&gt;
>Gothic art:  films, books, plays, fine arts:  art that perpetuates
&gt;Gothic art:  films, books, plays, fine arts:  art that perpetuates
>a morbidity or feeling of angst.  Submissions of gothic prose
&gt;a morbidity or feeling of angst.  Submissions of gothic prose
>and poetry are encouraged.
&gt;and poetry are encouraged.
>
&gt;
>Social aspects of the gothic culture:  clothes, clubs, etc, as well
&gt;Social aspects of the gothic culture:  clothes, clubs, etc, as well
>as gothic activities such as vampirism and haunting.
&gt;as gothic activities such as vampirism and haunting.




>Finally, I feel it would be especially apt were alt.gothic to be
&gt;Finally, I feel it would be especially apt were alt.gothic to be
>created on halloween.  :-)
&gt;created on halloween.  :-)


I thought about this before creating the group.  Seeing what little
I thought about this before creating the group.  Seeing what little
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From: news@shelby.stanford.edu (USENET News System)
From: news@shelby.stanford.edu (USENET News System)
Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
Message-ID: <1991Nov7.170733.27286@shelby.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: &lt;1991Nov7.170733.27286@shelby.stanford.edu&gt;
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
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Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl
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Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
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Date: 1 Apr 92 16:11:40 GMT
Date: 1 Apr 92 16:11:40 GMT
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Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl
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Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
Subject: newgroup alt.gothic
Message-ID: <15599@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU>
Message-ID: &lt;15599@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU&gt;
Date: 25 Apr 92 23:12:01 GMT
Date: 25 Apr 92 23:12:01 GMT
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Control: newgroup alt.gothic
Date: 19 Nov 1994 03:10:50 GMT
Date: 19 Nov 1994 03:10:50 GMT
Organization: "OroNet, Penn Valley, CA"
Organization: &quot;OroNet, Penn Valley, CA&quot;
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Approved: smj@oro.net
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Message-ID: <3ajqbq$6ks@ag.oro.net>
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Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:42
Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:42
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
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Message-ID: <tale689@uunet.uu.net>
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Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
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Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46
Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
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Message-ID: <tale702@uunet.uu.net>
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Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
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Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:45:50 GMT
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:45:50 GMT
Message-ID: <alt.gothic-1@news.demon.net>
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Control: newgroup alt.gothic
Control: newgroup alt.gothic
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Approved: alt.gothic netizens
Approved: alt.gothic netizens
Message-ID: <bierman-0611961657070001@bierpe3.apple.com>
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Newgroup sent to counteract forged rmgroup. See attached.
Newgroup sent to counteract forged rmgroup. See attached.


> Path:
&gt; Path:
>
&gt;
nntp1.apple.com!colloquy.apple.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-
nntp1.apple.com!colloquy.apple.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-
hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-
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hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!gergs_b
ane.org!anon
ane.org!anon
> From: tale@uunet.uu.net
&gt; From: tale@uunet.uu.net
> Newsgroups: control
&gt; Newsgroups: control
> Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic
&gt; Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic
> Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46
&gt; Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46
> Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
&gt; Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
> Message-ID: <tale702@uunet.uu.net>
&gt; Message-ID: &lt;tale702@uunet.uu.net&gt;
> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
&gt; Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
> Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
&gt; Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
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&gt;
> remove outdated group
&gt; remove outdated group




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Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:42
Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:42
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <tale22415@uunet.uu.net>
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Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Approved: Fluffy
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Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:56
Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:56
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <tale22460@uunet.uu.net>
Message-ID: &lt;tale22460@uunet.uu.net&gt;
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
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Approved: jkramer1@swarthmore.edu
Approved: jkramer1@swarthmore.edu
Message-ID: <jkramer1-1111962243120001@res100.parrish-dorm01.swarthmore.edu>
Message-ID: &lt;jkramer1-1111962243120001@res100.parrish-dorm01.swarthmore.edu&gt;
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Date: 28 Nov 1996 08:24:11
Date: 28 Nov 1996 08:24:11
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <tale31399@uunet.uu.net>
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Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
Control: rmgroup alt.gothic
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From newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de Tue Aug  5 14:18:15 1997
From newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de Tue Aug  5 14:18:15 1997
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Message-ID: <5s82af$5j7@asterix.DMV-Franzis.de>
Message-ID: &lt;5s82af$5j7@asterix.DMV-Franzis.de&gt;
From: newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de
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From news@fh-aachen.de Wed Jun 10 01:03:05 1998
From news@fh-aachen.de Wed Jun 10 01:03:05 1998
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Message-ID: <6lld94$np617@ultra1Aether.noc.fh-aachen.de>
Message-ID: &lt;6lld94$np617@ultra1Aether.noc.fh-aachen.de&gt;
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Approved: newsmaster@alt.gothic.net (The Goths)
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X-Trace: news1.rmi.net 926454945 7529 166.93.216.51 (11 May 1999 20:35:45 GMT)
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X-Trace: borg.svpal.org 926486856 17106 127.0.0.1 (12 May 1999 05:27:36 GMT)

Revision as of 06:57, 24 November 2010

UNDER COSTRUCTION, PLEASE SEE THIS POST IN RESERVE COPY

From pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com Thu Nov 7 11:26:32 1991 Path: rpi!bu.edu!widener!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!pacbell.com!ames!agate!spool.mu.edu!uune t!orca!javelin.sim.es.com!pashdown From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Newsgroups: control,alt.config,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.misc Subject: newgroup alt.gothic Summary: newgroup alt.gothic Keywords: newgroup Message-ID: <1991Nov1.001114.27291@javelin.sim.es.com> Date: 1 Nov 91 00:11:14 GMT Control: newgroup alt.gothic Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah Lines: 33 Approved: news@javelin.sim.es.com


The charter, with accordance with Ms. Lemay's vision:

>alt.gothic is a newsgroup for the discussion of the gothic subculture. >The gothic (or goth) movement is dedicated to things mournful and >dark. It does not refer to the historical gothic movement, i.e. >the ravaging of asia by the visigoths. > >Then, below, you don't necessarily have to explain what each genre >is: > >Gothic music: sometimes called "death rock", encompasses bands >such as (bands listed in the charter) > >Gothic art: films, books, plays, fine arts: art that perpetuates >a morbidity or feeling of angst. Submissions of gothic prose >and poetry are encouraged. > >Social aspects of the gothic culture: clothes, clubs, etc, as well >as gothic activities such as vampirism and haunting.


>Finally, I feel it would be especially apt were alt.gothic to be >created on halloween.  :-)

I thought about this before creating the group. Seeing what little discussion was happening in alt.config, I decided to jump the gun in order to create upon this relevant date. --

             Living in my own world.  Living where I want to be.

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer. Keep it that way. Pete Ashdown pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com ...uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!pashdown

From news@shelby.stanford.edu Thu Nov 7 15:07:24 1991 Control: newgroup alt.gothic Newsgroups: alt.gothic Path: rpi!ispd-newsserver!psinntp!uunet!stanford.edu!news From: news@shelby.stanford.edu (USENET News System) Subject: newgroup alt.gothic Message-ID: <1991Nov7.170733.27286@shelby.stanford.edu> Organization: Stanford University, California, USA Distribution: su Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1991 17:07:33 GMT Approved: stergios@kt22.Stanford.EDU Lines: 2

A group for the discussion of the gothic subculture


From damir@exchange.GBA.NYU.EDU Wed Apr 1 12:59:56 1992 Path: rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio- state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!umn.edu!umeecs!yale!yale.edu!cm cl2!exchange!damir From: damir@exchange.GBA.NYU.EDU (Damir Mijacika) Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl Subject: newgroup alt.gothic Message-ID: <23177@exchange.GBA.NYU.EDU> Date: 1 Apr 92 16:11:40 GMT Control: newgroup alt.gothic Distribution: nyu Organization: NYU Stern School of Business Lines: 0 Approved: damir@exchange.GBA.NYU.EDU


From steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU Sun Apr 26 10:52:03 1992 Path: rpi!usenet.coe.montana.edu!decwrl!bu.edu!dartvax!mars.caps.maine.edu!gandalf!ste ve From: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Steve E. Goldsmith) Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl Subject: newgroup alt.gothic Message-ID: <15599@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU> Date: 25 Apr 92 23:12:01 GMT Control: newgroup alt.gothic Distribution: umcs Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science Lines: 0 Approved: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU


From smj@smudge.oro.net Fri Nov 18 22:04:47 1994 Path: uunet!newshost.marcam.com!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!oro.net !smudge.oro.net!smj From: smj@smudge.oro.net (Scott Jennings) Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.gothic Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic Control: newgroup alt.gothic Date: 19 Nov 1994 03:10:50 GMT Organization: "OroNet, Penn Valley, CA" Lines: 8 Approved: smj@oro.net Message-ID: <3ajqbq$6ks@ag.oro.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: smudge.oro.net Xref: uunet control:1393623

Here it is, as promised in alt.config. The shear volume of traffic in this group should be enough to validate it at most sites, even if the name could have been better chosen.

For your newsgroups file: alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark


From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 21 16:48:05 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:42 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <tale689@uunet.uu.net> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7138

remove outdated group

From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 21 16:48:09 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <tale702@uunet.uu.net> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7139

remove outdated group

From newsmaster@demon.net Tue Oct 22 12:55:49 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!dispatch.news.demon.net !demon!not-for-mail From: newsmaster@demon.net Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:45:50 GMT Message-ID: <alt.gothic-1@news.demon.net> Control: newgroup alt.gothic Approved: newsmaster@demon.net Lines: 5 Xref: uunet control.newgroup:17875

Forge-rmgroupd by the same folks responsible for the stupidity in news.*

For your newsgroups file: alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark

From bierman@apple.com Thu Nov 7 01:34:52 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!feed1.news.erols.com!chi- news.cic.net!bznews.apple.com!nntp1.apple.com!bierpe3.apple.com!user From: bierman@apple.com (Peter Bierman) Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic Control: newgroup alt.gothic Followup-To: alt.gothic Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:57:07 -0800 Organization: I do not speak for Apple Computer! Lines: 21 Approved: alt.gothic netizens Message-ID: <bierman-0611961657070001@bierpe3.apple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bierpe3.apple.com Xref: uunet control.newgroup:18329

For your newsgroups file: alt.gothic Netizens of the night.


Newgroup sent to counteract forged rmgroup. See attached.

> Path: > nntp1.apple.com!colloquy.apple.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news- hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news- hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!gergs_b ane.org!anon > From: tale@uunet.uu.net > Newsgroups: control > Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic > Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:45:46 > Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net > Message-ID: <tale702@uunet.uu.net> > Control: rmgroup alt.gothic > Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net > Lines: 1 > > remove outdated group


From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 7 19:05:16 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!theplanet.net!knews.uk0.vbc.net!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!d emon!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:42 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <tale22415@uunet.uu.net> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Approved: Fluffy Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7318

Removal of bogus group not created by recognized voting procedures.

From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 7 19:06:09 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!theplanet.net!knews.uk0.vbc.net!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!d emon!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Date: 05 Nov 1996 06:57:56 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <tale22460@uunet.uu.net> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Approved: Fluffy Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7320

Removal of bogus group not created by recognized voting procedures.

From jkramer1@swarthmore.edu Mon Nov 11 22:45:22 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!news.sprintlink.net!news- peer.sprintlink.net!howland.erols.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.cc .swarthmore.edu!res100.parrish-dorm01.swarthmore.edu!user From: jkramer1@swarthmore.edu (Joshua Kramer) Newsgroups: alt.config Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic Control: newgroup alt.gothic Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:43:12 -0500 Organization: Swarthmore College Lines: 12 Approved: jkramer1@swarthmore.edu Message-ID: <jkramer1-1111962243120001@res100.parrish-dorm01.swarthmore.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: res100.parrish-dorm01.swarthmore.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: uunet control.newgroup:19046

For your newsgroups file: alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark.


rmgrouped for no good reason.

-- Joshua Kramer, Student, Swarthmore College. Any opinions expressed herein represent only those of Joshua Kramer and should not be taken to represent the views of any organization or any other individual living or dead.

From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 28 08:21:24 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!205.244.8.35!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Date: 28 Nov 1996 08:24:11 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <tale31399@uunet.uu.net> Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Approved: tale@uu.net Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7647

Superceeded by alt.gothic.* hierarchy

From newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de Tue Aug 5 14:18:15 1997 Newsgroups: alt.gothic Message-ID: <5s82af$5j7@asterix.DMV-Franzis.de> From: newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de Approved: newsadmin@edv.dmv-franzis.de NNTP-Posting-Host: asterix.DMV-Franzis.de Path: news.isc.org!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.127.161.1!wnfeed!worldnet.att.net!207.22.81.9! europa.clark.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net !isar.de!asterix.DMV-Franzis.de!asterix.DMV-Franzis.de!asterix.DMV-Franzis.de Date: 5 Aug 1997 20:26:55 GMT Organization: DMV Franzis' Verlage Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic y Control: newgroup alt.gothic y Lines: 3 Xref: news.isc.org control.newgroup:8307


Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.


From news@fh-aachen.de Wed Jun 10 01:03:05 1998 Newsgroups: alt.gothic Message-ID: <6lld94$np617@ultra1Aether.noc.fh-aachen.de> From: news@fh-aachen.de Approved: news@fh-aachen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: ultra1Aether.noc.fh-aachen.de Path: news.isc.org!news.Stanford.EDU!newsfeed.concentric.net!netnews.com!news.maxwell. syr.edu!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!ultra1Aether.noc.fh- aachen.de!ultra1Aether.noc.fh-aachen.de Date: 10 Jun 1998 07:40:20 GMT Organization: University of Applied Sciences Aachen Germany Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic y Control: newgroup alt.gothic y Lines: 3 Xref: news.isc.org control.newgroup:21082


Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.


From newsmaster@alt.gothic.net Tue May 11 13:44:22 1999 Path: news.isc.org!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!iad- peer.news.verio.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!166.93.8.12!natasha.rmii.com!news1.rmi.net !not-for-mail From: newsmaster@alt.gothic.net (The Goths) Newsgroups: alt.config Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.gothic Control: rmgroup alt.gothic Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:35:40 GMT Organization: Bar The Goths Lines: 5 Approved: newsmaster@alt.gothic.net (The Goths) Message-ID: <373893af.76134765@news.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.93.216.51.rmi.net X-Trace: news1.rmi.net 926454945 7529 166.93.216.51 (11 May 1999 20:35:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@rmi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 May 1999 20:35:45 GMT Summary: As discussed in alt.config, remove alt.gothic X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news.isc.org control.rmgroup:81647

There's no support for this group:

  • joke group


From raquele@borg.svpal.org Tue May 11 22:30:09 1999 Path: news.isc.org!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.svpal.org!not-for- mail From: raquele@borg.svpal.org (J Gan) Newsgroups: alt.gothic.ctl Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.gothic Control: newgroup alt.gothic Date: 11 May 1999 22:27:27 -0700 Organization: Silicon Valley Public Access Link Lines: 10 Approved: raquele@borg.svpal.org Message-ID: <7hb3fv$gmh$1@borg.svpal.org> References: <373893af.76134765@news.rmi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.svpal.org X-Trace: borg.svpal.org 926486856 17106 127.0.0.1 (12 May 1999 05:27:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@svpal.org NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 May 1999 05:27:36 GMT Xref: news.isc.org control.newgroup:160293

To counter recent rmgroup.

- High-traffic group with clear need and support; postings are of good quality - Group has existed since 1 Nov 1991, according to UUNET cmsg archive - No discussion or support for removing group was present in alt.config, as claimed by rmgroup poster, or in alt.gothic

For your newsgroups file: alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark