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alt.gothic is where we started talking, arguing & flirting. You can find it on Usenet<ref>It's not hard</ref>. We may or may not be [[Goth | goths]] depending.
== Beginning ==
It appears to have been started on [[ISC_record | 01 November 1991]] by [http://www.lauralemay.com/ Laura Lemay]<ref>The power of [http://community.livejournal.com/goth_macros stupid macros] validates that [http://blog.lauralemay.com/archives/2007/07/im_in_ur_goth_macro.html they are the same person]</ref>. The oldest posts Google has are from the 4th of November, but a couple of them are [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_thread/thread/bd6252d6335bad47/6620c7abf161245f?hl=en&lnk=st&q=group%3Aalt.gothic#6620c7abf161245f responses] to what appear to be posts on the 2nd.
The charter & request to create a.g was [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.config/browse_thread/thread/f7bab753bda47b39/fbdef2a63ac063ec?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=alt.gothic#fbdef2a63ac063ec posted to alt.config] by [http://groups.google.ca/groups/profile?hl=en&enc_user=9KTbihkAAABOX7GQyKqiOn3mzsZ175scVfbiFziOdjG8sOcaNavG3A Eldritch the thrillseeker], who posted out of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign on 30 October 1991.
The first [http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_frm/thread/2a88e37af4989f4?hl=en&tvc=1&q=group%3Aalt.gothic  "Is x gothic?"] post was on 03 November 1991. In this case x = Fields of the Nephilim, and someone asked in a non-troll like fashion if SoM were Goth.
The first[http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.gothic/browse_thread/thread/7cdad8d419833e47/2825d58dde056f85?hl=en&lnk=st&q=group%3Aalt.gothic#2825d58dde056f85  "What is goth?"] post was at 17:27 on 04 November 1991.
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
== After A While ==
Three years later, some of the regulars had the bright idea that doing this in the same physical location with alcohol & music would be a really good idea.
Hence, [[Convergence]]
== FAQ ==
If you want to know more about the group, read the [[alt.gothic FAQ v4.0.0.1 beta]] or [[Alt.gothic_faq | v4.0.4 "Finding a sickness you like"]]<ref>This page should probably be orphaned...</ref>
== Technical Stuff ==
Alt.gothic is a USENET newsgroup for goths. USENET is an absolutely huge discussion for virtually anything, started in 1979. A newsgroup is a subject-oriented subsection of USENET. [http://www.newsreaders.com/ Newsreaders.com] has a general discussion of how to get yourself hooked up to USENET. Many ISPs already maintain USENET news servers available for their customers' use without additional charge, and many news clients are available for free or very low cost as well.
Alt.gothic is a USENET newsgroup for goths. USENET is an absolutely huge discussion for virtually anything, started in 1979. A newsgroup is a subject-oriented subsection of USENET. [http://www.newsreaders.com/ Newsreaders.com] has a general discussion of how to get yourself hooked up to USENET. Many ISPs already maintain USENET news servers available for their customers' use without additional charge, and many news clients are available for free or very low cost as well.


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* LiveJournal has a [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/altgothic/ syndication] of this feed that can be added to friends pages. As this can easily overwhelm a Friends List, there's also a syndicated feed of the more-topical [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/agconvergence/ alt.gothic.convergence].  
* LiveJournal has a [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/altgothic/ syndication] of this feed that can be added to friends pages. As this can easily overwhelm a Friends List, there's also a syndicated feed of the more-topical [http://syndicated.livejournal.com/agconvergence/ alt.gothic.convergence].  


It's where we started talking, arguing & flirting.


Back in 1994 some of the regulars had the bright idea that doing this in the same physical location with alcohol & music would be a really good idea.
Hence, [[Convergence]]


If you want to know more about the group, read the [[alt.gothic FAQ v4.0.0.1 beta]]
== Trivia ==
[[Divergence]] - Some of the regulars couldn't make it to [[C4 | Convergence IV]] so they organised a meet up on IRC instead. This is before the days of webcams, wireless or even affordable laptops so usenet was very quiet on Convergence weekends in those days.


==Stuff==
== Notes ==
[[Divergence]] - Some of the regulars couldn't make it to [[C4]] so they organised a meet up on IRC instead. This is before the days of webcams, wireless or even affordable laptops so usenet was very quiet on Convergence weekends in those days.
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Revision as of 19:12, 30 December 2015

alt.gothic is where we started talking, arguing & flirting. You can find it on Usenet<ref>It's not hard</ref>. We may or may not be goths depending.

Beginning

It appears to have been started on 01 November 1991 by Laura Lemay<ref>The power of stupid macros validates that they are the same person</ref>. The oldest posts Google has are from the 4th of November, but a couple of them are responses to what appear to be posts on the 2nd.

The charter & request to create a.g was posted to alt.config by Eldritch the thrillseeker, who posted out of University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign on 30 October 1991.

The first "Is x gothic?" post was on 03 November 1991. In this case x = Fields of the Nephilim, and someone asked in a non-troll like fashion if SoM were Goth.

The first"What is goth?" post was at 17:27 on 04 November 1991.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

After A While

Three years later, some of the regulars had the bright idea that doing this in the same physical location with alcohol & music would be a really good idea.

Hence, Convergence

FAQ

If you want to know more about the group, read the alt.gothic FAQ v4.0.0.1 beta or v4.0.4 "Finding a sickness you like"<ref>This page should probably be orphaned...</ref>

Technical Stuff

Alt.gothic is a USENET newsgroup for goths. USENET is an absolutely huge discussion for virtually anything, started in 1979. A newsgroup is a subject-oriented subsection of USENET. Newsreaders.com has a general discussion of how to get yourself hooked up to USENET. Many ISPs already maintain USENET news servers available for their customers' use without additional charge, and many news clients are available for free or very low cost as well.

For those without the interest to maintain a separate tool for reading the newsgroup, there are several alternatives:


Trivia

Divergence - Some of the regulars couldn't make it to Convergence IV so they organised a meet up on IRC instead. This is before the days of webcams, wireless or even affordable laptops so usenet was very quiet on Convergence weekends in those days.

Notes

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